The Legal Growth Podcast

Leading with Perspective: A Conversation with Litigator Chris Tillery

In this episode of the Legal Growth Podcast, host Aaron Fulk sits down with Chris Tillery, shareholder at Siegfried Bingham, to explore how humility, people skills, and adaptability have shaped his journey from associate to firm leader. Chris shares how an unexpected experience on jury duty inspired his legal career, why learning from mistakes can be more valuable than studying success, and how his time in the restaurant industry unexpectedly prepared him for life in the courtroom.
He also dives into the evolution of the legal profession — from generational shifts to the lasting impact of remote work and AI — and offers practical advice for attorneys navigating today’s changing legal landscape.
Listeners will learn:
Why real-world experience matters more than perfection
How people skills and empathy strengthen client relationships
The long-term effects of remote work on legal collaboration
Why younger attorneys should prioritize in-person connection
How to grow from associate to shareholder through leadership and adaptability
👉 Tune in for a grounded, insightful conversation that reminds attorneys that growth in law comes from curiosity, connection, and constant learning.

From Pivot to Powerhouse: A Conversation with Family Law Attorney Nicole Fisher

In this episode of the Legal Growth Podcast, host Aaron Fulk sits down with Nicole Fisher, founder of Fisher Law LLC, to discuss how she built one of Kansas City’s fastest-growing family law firms — and why innovation, adaptability, and empathy have been key to her success.
Nicole shares how a spontaneous decision to take the LSAT turned into a thriving career, why the COVID-19 pandemic unexpectedly fueled family law growth, and how she’s embracing technology to keep her firm ahead of the curve. From her love of numbers and negotiation to her predictions about private equity’s role in the legal industry, Nicole offers a refreshing, forward-thinking perspective on what it takes to run a modern law firm.
Listeners will learn:
How the pandemic reshaped the family law landscape
Why adaptability and technology are vital to firm growth
How financial acumen gives attorneys a competitive edge
What private equity’s entrance could mean for the future of law firms
Why clerking for a judge is the best preparation for new lawyers
👉 Tune in for a thoughtful and insightful conversation that blends business strategy, legal innovation, and the human side of family law.

Balancing Law, Life, and Technology: A Conversation with Family Law Attorney Stacey Wullschleger

In this episode of the Legal Growth Podcast, host Aaron Fulk sits down with Stacey Wullschleger, a family law attorney who turned her passion for people and problem-solving into a thriving legal career. From her early inspiration sparked by Erin Brockovich to her daily work helping families navigate complex “little environments,” Stacey shares an honest and relatable look at what it takes to succeed — and stay grounded — in one of law’s most emotional practice areas.
She opens up about the lessons learned from decades in family law, how technology and AI are shaping the future of legal practice, and why building a strong professional network is essential for long-term success. With candor and humor, Stacey reminds listeners that growth in law is as much about adaptability and community as it is about legal expertise.
Listeners will learn:
How to grow within your practice by taking on new challenges
Why technology and AI should support, not replace, human judgment
How professional relationships drive better results and referrals
The importance of choosing a legal specialty — and sticking to it
Honest advice for aspiring attorneys from someone who’s been there
👉 Tune in for a witty, real-world conversation that captures the balance between modern legal innovation and the timeless human side of practicing law.
 

From Cat Ears to Courtrooms: A Conversation with Insurance Attorney Brandee Bower

In this episode of the Legal Growth Podcast, host Aaron Fulk sits down with Brandee Bower, an insurance attorney whose path to advocacy began with an unexpected twist — a tree falling on her house. What started as a denied insurance claim became a lifelong mission to protect homeowners and policyholders from unfair practices.
Brandee shares how she transitioned from defending insurance companies to standing up for clients who need a voice, and how her entrepreneurial roots as a fifth-generation business owner helped her build a successful, people-centered law firm. With honesty, humor, and a touch of Halloween flair, she opens up about mindset training, business growth, and staying grounded in a constantly evolving industry.
Listeners will learn:
How a personal experience can redefine your purpose in law
Why shifting from “lawyer” to “business owner” thinking changes everything
How mindset and discernment play a role in leadership and decision-making
The impact of AI and accountability in today’s legal landscape
Why loving what you do — and knowing when to pivot — is key to long-term success
👉 Tune in for a candid, energetic conversation that reminds us law is most powerful when it’s driven by authenticity, resilience, and heart.

Building a Business Through Purpose and Specialization: A Conversation with Estate Planning Attorney Ledly Jennings

In this episode of the Legal Growth Podcast, host Aaron Fulk sits down with Ledly Jennings, an estate planning and elder law attorney who turned his investment banking background into a thriving legal practice. From launching his firm in rural Arkansas to hitting five-year revenue goals in half the time, Ludley shares how focus, systems, and purpose have been the foundation of his success.
He opens up about the power of niching down, the art of authentic sales, and how technology — especially AI — is reshaping estate planning. Ludley also discusses the growing trend of financial advisors entering the legal space and why understanding your value as an attorney has never been more important.
Listeners will learn:
How to grow a specialized law firm in a competitive market
Why authenticity and purpose drive stronger client relationships
The pros and cons of AI in estate planning
How to adapt to shifting industry trends with confidence
Why mentorship and entrepreneurship are key for young attorneys
👉 Tune in for a practical and inspiring conversation that proves success in law isn’t about doing everything — it’s about doing what you do best.

Confidence, Connection, and the Future of Law: A Conversation with Real Estate Attorney Michelle Burns

In this episode of the Legal Growth Podcast, host Aaron Fulk sits down with Michelle Burns, a sharp real estate attorney whose path to law was anything but ordinary. From her early days reading mystery novels and mastering typing on a typewriter to leading complex real estate cases, Michelle opens up about how curiosity, confidence, and connection have guided her success.
She shares how she overcame self-doubt to find her voice in the courtroom, why people skills are as vital as legal expertise, and how technology — especially AI in legal research — is reshaping the profession. Michelle also gives her honest take on the future of law firms, the importance of emotional intelligence, and what young aspiring attorneys should really know before going to law school.
Listeners will learn:
How to build authentic confidence in your legal career
Why personal intuition is a powerful legal skill
The real impact of AI on legal practice and court filings
What law school really teaches beyond the textbooks
How to adapt and grow in a constantly changing legal landscape
👉 Tune in for a thoughtful, down-to-earth discussion that reminds us why law is as much about people as it is about precedent.
 

Leadership, Law, and the Human Element: A Conversation with Bill Martucci from Shook, Hardy & Bacon, L.L.P.

In this episode of The Legal Growth Podcast, host Aaron Fulk sits down with Bill Martucci, one of the nation’s top trial and employment attorneys, to explore what it truly means to lead with purpose in the modern legal world. From navigating high-stakes jury trials across the country to shaping firm culture and mentoring the next generation of lawyers, Bill shares how empathy, integrity, and connection remain at the heart of effective advocacy.
Listeners will hear insights on:
How to balance technology and human connection in the age of AI
The evolution of law firm leadership and inclusivity in 2025 and beyond
Lessons from national litigation that shaped Bill’s career
Why coaching youth sports and serving the community build stronger leaders in law
Advice for aspiring attorneys on resilience, open-mindedness, and lifelong learning
Whether you’re a managing partner, associate, or law student, this conversation offers a masterclass in leadership, purpose, and professional growth.
Tune in to learn how today’s most respected legal minds are redefining success — one human connection at a time.
 

Kristi Hartmann of Hartmann Law

To kick off our podcast, we welcome Kristi Hartmann of Hartmann Law. Her practice specializes in real estate law and estate planning/probate. She assists individuals and business owners in all aspects of estate planning/probate and business succession planning. Her real estate practice involves sales, purchases, leasing, financing, quiet title actions and real estate litigation strategy.For more information about Kristi, visit her website at https://hlawkc.com/